Grey Wolf’s Spiritual Advocacy

This is a beautiful write up, I just have to share it.  I agree with this whole heartily!

I wasn’t raised in any one type of faith, but I did convert to Christianity [I had plans on becoming a missionary, go figure] in my teens and became bewildered of it’s teaching’s, and it’s followers.  I left it after four years!  After that I became agnostic, but later became a Buddhist because I felt that it fitted in with my back ground of science, spiritual beliefs and it’s respect for nature and the world we live in.  I find this very interesting because even though it’s Native American, it seems to be similar to my ancestral background practice of Shintoism which is tightly connected with nature and the world we live in.  Shinto teaches us that all things have kami [spirit] miss translated as “God” in the English language.  So, “god” is with in us all and with in all things.  Personally, it is the life force with in each of us, and that is energy is within all things, down to the smallest atom within each of our cells we have this energy, that life force.

In Shinto there is a saying:   共存共栄  Kyoson Kyoei, Mutual co- existence and co- prosperity  ["A way that knows no prejudice."]

It’s unfortunate that we have to be bombarded daily with something that teaches so much hate towards everything else, when there are these beautiful teachings of respect for everything.  What happened, and why do so many choose the route of hate and disrespect for everything around us?

Grey Wolf's Spiritual Advacacy on Spirituality vs Religion

Freedom of Religion?

I just wish these other religions would stop pushing their stuff on the rest of us.  Civil marriage isn’t about religious marriage!  Religious marriage is between the church and their followers, no one else.  The church can tell their followers who or who they may not marry, and they should not be allowed to tell other people who don’t even participate in their faith, what they can or can not do.

Religious marriage and Civil marriage are two different things.  Civil marriage is about civil law, and doesn’t belong to the church it belongs the citizens of the state for the purpose of proving property rights and heirs, and many other legal aspect of life in the state.

Marriage is not a church invention, and the church adopted the practice, much like it adopted Easter from Ostera or Christmas from the Winter Solstice celebrations and many other adopted practices of the Pagan people.

We are suppose to have freedom of religion, but I’m find that the church is interfering with my freedom of my religion.

I see BIG Change coming our way in favor of Same Sex Civil Marriage in a WAVE ACROSS AMERICA!  Thanks to what Prop 8 is showing me, and many others across the country and the world!

We will be Free!

Proposition 8: What Happened to Change?

While Prop 8 is the catalyst to our actions and the stimulus to a meta-dialogue on marriage, I would go further to say Prop. 8 is harmful legislation that is being used as a tool to further moral issues of many who feel that same-sex relationships are immoral and an “abomination to God.” The clear message is that there really isn’t a question of marriage for same-sex partnerships simply because the California Supreme Court has upheld 18,000 (!) same-sex marriages. The court could have easily denied the right to marriage to those 18,000 people.

Meanwhile, many Americans in this Obama era advocate for change on a national level and have celebrated change. Many have celebrated difference this year with the victory of a different kind of President. When it was announced that the California Supreme Court had decided to affirm Prop. 8, what I saw and experienced as a Zen priest that lives in a same-sex relationship, is the unbelievable shock of not being part of the change America claims in this 21st Century.

What happens when we must deal with change (and may I say inevitable change) that is meant to transform hatred among us? Despite, Obama’s win there is still racial hatred. What if the change we were to embrace included the end of oppression of one group over another? Letting go of a superior or inferior being is what Shayamuni Buddha taught in his lessons on “no-self” or interrelationships with all living beings. We are nothing without each other. So, the denial of freedom to one is to deny freedom to all. [read more]

End the Lies and Pass the Matthew Shepard Act

I’ve already blogged on the terrorism brought about by these right wing extremists, several times. When they preach the hate toward Gay people or immigrants, their followers listen. The problem is that there bible authorizes them to kill and terrorize people they see fit to terrorize. They’re so extreme that when their minister tells them something behind the pulpit essentially “demonizing” others, that’s automatic authorization for their followers to kill, attack or terrorize Gay people. Rush Limbaugh is a prime example of that constant preaching. I’ve also noticed that most extremist religious views target Gay people, and that seems to be all they do within their organization. I had seen one web site, condemning homosexuality, yet it said nothing about the starvation, homeless children, destruction of our environment or homeless veterans.

I’ve seen this hate preached all to often, and that is why they’re able to get Bush to veto a hate crimes bill because they are the haters committing these crimes.

These same people also taunt Gay people or other people not of their ethnic background. I’m a sixth generation Californian, and I know California has been a Spanish speaking state longer than it’s been part of the Union, yet we have those same kinds of extremists coming out of central California targeting Hispanic people. Many of them take jobs that they will not do themselves. It’s the constant harassment of other groups which helps them gain more converts of the younger generation who feel lost and have a need to join a group.

It’s time to stop this madness in American society.

End the Lies and Pass the Matthew Shepard Act

Two years ago, radical right-wing groups and George W. Bush’s veto threat blocked federal hate crimes protections for LGBT people. Today, we have another chance.

But because we came so close in 2007, our opponents are fighting more ferociously and lying more shamelessly than ever. Your donation will support an ambitious campaign of nonstop advocacy in Congress, grassroots mobilization in key districts, media work, hard-hitting research, and extensive public education.

Anti-LGBT hate crimes were up 6% in the most recent FBI data. They’re happening all around us.

In early December, Jose Sucuzhañay, a real estate broker and father of two, was attacked by a gang of men in Brooklyn. They beat him to death with a baseball bat while yelling anti-Hispanic and anti-gay slurs. He had been walking arm-in-arm with his brother, huddling against the cold.

Just days later, near San Francisco, four men attacked a woman with a rainbow sticker on her car, taunted her for being a lesbian, drove her to an abandoned building and brutally raped her, leaving her naked on the street.

We must give local law enforcement the tools they need to investigate and prosecute these heinous crimes. Help us raise $120,000 to fight for the Matthew Shepard Act.

These horrific crimes happened in states with inclusive LGBT hate crime laws, but many states have none – and even in those that do have sexual orientation and gender identity hate crimes laws, federal investigators can’t intervene without a national law. Until then, we and our loved ones must walk the streets in fear, without the legal protections we deserve.

Extremist Threats H8 Women’s Fitted Baseball Tee

Land of the Free H8 Extremists Threaten Free America! Extremism seems to be the perpetrator of Prop 8. Biblical extremists intimidate and threaten free people. Stop tyranny and the tyrant mobs!

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Firefighter says chief’s apology wasn’t sincere

More religious litigation targeting the Gay community!

These are just a bunch of whiny “firemen” who are out to target the Gay community with their extremist attorney’s using the law to target the Gay community.  The Right Wing or “social conservative” extremists like to find way’s to target the Gay community through the legal system or popular votes; it’s their new tool.  I say this because these are suppose to be “firefighters” who help the community, the team that was in the parade were in and work in the Gay community, yet some how 4 million dollar legal battle against the city sounds like nice pocket change, not that I’m saying they will get it.  They allege they are sending a message, but these religious fanatics waist a lot of taxpayer dollars through litigation.

I agree, if the firefighters didn’t want to be in the Gay Pride Parade, as they have always been a part of because of the community they work in, and then they should not have been ordered to.  Also, they could have refused that order and then dealt with the issue later, but they followed that order.  If you feel an order is wrong you should not follow it through, it should be questioned.

I think these firefighters need a change in career, since “scantly clad men” in underwear offend them!  That’s a joke!

As a profession, I worked in a hospital for several years, and as a nursing assistant later on, and I have seen far worse things than “scantly clad men” in underwear.  I’ve also seen several parades, the parades are for entertainment of that community, as well as a political battle, just like any other parade is for it’s community.  I have never seen men in “underwear,” perhaps they are mistaken and seen men in swim shorts or shorts?

They allege verbal sexual harassment as well; I find it difficult to believe because most people appreciate the firefighters in our community because we are team.  I recall several parades when the police and firefighters would ride through the parade and every one would cheer in support of them, and they’d wave back.  It’s a community thing, but these firefighters alleged they were harassed, and first there were only two, but I guess two more jumped into the bandwagon for that free money.

If you ask me, they were coursed into or planned the litigation because the legal firm isn’t even from San Diego; it’s some religious extremist legal firm that uses the law to fight for things that target the Gay community.

They allege that the apology wasn’t sincere, but that sounds strange to me because the apology came from their own chief, and their non-acceptance of that apology just seems like their homophobic.  Being afraid or offended of “scantly clad man” who happens to be Gay is homophobic.

You can’t tell me that being a firefighter; you have never seen a “scantly clad” male before?  This is about homophobia, and they say it’s not because that’s the tool these people use to try to legitimize their claims.

Second trial for firefighters in Pride parade wraps up
For the second time in five months, a jury was asked to determine whether four San Diego firefighters who were forced to participate in the 2007 San Diego LGBT Pride parade were victims of sexual harassment by parade spectators.
This time around, however, the firefighters’ attorney didn’t put a $4 million price tag on damages in the case.
An eight-woman, four-man jury began deliberations Wednesday to consider the firefighters’ claims in San Diego Superior Court.
A jury in the initial case deadlocked Oct. 6 and was unable to get nine jurors to agree the firefighters were harassed, and that the harassment was severe, causing a hostile work environment.
The jury was required to answer the questions before considering damages. The case ended in a mistrial.
Firefighters John Ghiotto, Chad Allison, Jason Hewitt, and Alexander Kane hope a second jury will resolve their lawsuit against the city of San Diego and the fire-rescue department. In the retrial, their attorney Charles LiMandri did not seek a specific amount in damages – unlike the $4 million he requested in October.
The City Attorney’s office contends the firefighters were not sexually harassed and the city was not at fault.
The four firefighters testified last week that they heard sexual comments and were taunted, and that they saw scantily clad men in suggestive poses during the July 21, 2007, parade in Hillcrest. [read more]

Marriage equality now 2009. Proposition 8 is about hate, it only targets a select group of Californian's. Reverse prop 8 because it's wrong! HH 88 is Hate!

Lie after Lie! Religious Extremists Continue Spreading Lies about the LGBT Community!

“We are coming out to fight the lies, the myths, the distortions. We are coming out to tell the truths about gays, for I am tired of the conspiracy of silence, so I’m going to talk about it. And I want you to talk about it.”
– Harvey Milk’s “Hope Speech,” 1978

Tired of these religious fanatics demonizing and telling lies about the community! Rick Warren can keep his religious views, but his religious views shouldn’t be forced upon the rest of us. He wouldn’t like it if I forced my religious views on him or his family, would he? I’m sure he wouldn’t.

Rick Warren doesn’t speak for other faiths, so don’t believe him.  As for his comments on Buddhism, Prop 8 is against Buddhist practice because Prop 8 creates a second class citizen and discriminates against other people for who they are.  Rick Warren and his followers don’t have to like it, but they should NOT be allowed to push their religious views on the rest of us. Forcing by a vote is not “religious liberty” because it favors his faith over my own and many others. That is why we have a common law and common understanding of The Separation of Church and State, and California’s constitution say’s that “The Legislature shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.“ [You may have to research this link under declaration of rights.] Though, this should all be common sense in 21st century America, we’re not living in the dark ages when fanatics killed in order to convert or are we?

I know religion, and I know that they get their followers to do their bidding through religious fervor, and religious fervor is a scary thing when the people blindly follow without even educating themselves on issues. This is how they get their 10% tithing and donations, as well as push other issues.

We should keep and honor Separation of Church and State! If we don’t have that then we do not have “religious liberty” because without on the other does not exist.

What we have here is extremist religious doctrine being force on the greater society, and that doctrine favors one belief system over many others, and it violates my own religious liberty.

Stop the Lies!

Harvey Milk knew that only by suppressing the truth can the forces of fear and divisiveness win.

To build support for Proposition 8, the radical right said California teachers would be forced to teach about homosexuality in the classroom. That was a LIE.

They said marriage equality would expose priests and ministers to arrest if they delivered anti-gay sermons or refused to marry same-sex couples. LIE after LIE.

But the truth sets us free. The truth destroys hate. The truth changes minds – when we all work to spread it.

Once the facts are on the table – once it’s clear that all LGBT Americans want is equality, justice and dignity – people support those rights in droves. In California, though we lost, support for marriage equality was up 26% since 2000. One poll showed that 8% of Prop. 8 supporters have already changed their minds in the weeks since Election Day.

The truth will fuel the momentum toward marriage equality, hate crimes legislation, inclusive workplace protections, and the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”.

But the truth only comes out when large groups of active citizens insist on it. Like last week, when HRC hand-delivered 27,000 letters to the LDS Church asking Mormon leaders to support protections for LGBT people in Utah. That’s the kind of rapid response that holds anti-LGBT groups accountable. They’re out there recruiting and organizing like mad – we need to match them citizen-for-citizen.

Warning! Religious extremists target Gay community. Recent events caused an increasing of hate violence/terrorism toward the Gay community after religious extremists pushed prop 8.

福音主義者原理主義者のみならずあらゆる宗教的過激派から自らを守る

Obama stands firm on ‘gay rights’ support

Staver needs to get a life, and stop worrying about his sexual problems. Any “gay rights” issue won’t have an affect on some church religious bigotry. Church will still continue being bigots as they always have. There religious agenda should scare anyone religious or not religious because it will take away America’s long standing rights to freedom for anyone who is not a Christian. It would even take away the Mormon’s right to “The Book of Mormon” because many Christian’s believe that “The Book of Mormon” is blasphemy. If we don’t protect every one’s right to equality, then there will be no religious liberty, and they will start on other religions. You only need to know religion to see that coming.

This is why we have “Separation of Church and State,” so we can practice our religious freedoms without being discriminated against. Why would an LGBT person want to belong to a bigoted religion? I do not know why, but that is an issue between them and their own church. Stavers religious agenda would only take away Religious Freedom of other faith systems in favor of his own agenda, and it has nothing to do with the Gay Rights Agenda which happens to be Equality.

Obama has a long standing fight for Civil Rights, so why should he stop when he’s in the White House?

Pandering to religion as Bush did, did nothing for this country’s future. Where are we today? Nothing has progressed, we do have many laws favoring Christianity, yet, nothing that protects our Religious Liberties, as Staver seems to think he’s losing.

It’s typical religious fear tactics, burn in hell kind of bull shit!

All they have to do is mind their own business and stop pushing their religion on our Civil Laws. Civil laws belong to society, and religious laws belong to your particular church sect, which is very diverse, depending on what scripture they want to focus on. Just remember to use the original texts, and remember that no sin is greater than any other, and you’ll be fine. Why Staver wants to target Gay People is beyond understanding because the bible doesn’t focus on Gay People like today’s New Age Christian’s do.

Obama stands firm on ‘gay rights’ support
Any hope that an incoming Obama administration will dump some of its more controversial proposals concerning “gay rights” apparently ended in recent days, when the president-elect’s team launched a page on the transition website devoted to homosexual causes.

The webpage at Change.gov boasts that a Barack Obama White House will bring “support for the LGBT Community” — an acronym that stands for “gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender” — and will back a series of bills long championed by homosexual groups but opposed by the current Bush administration. The website quotes Obama as saying, “While we have come a long way since the Stonewall riots in 1969, we still have a lot of work to do.”

Second Class Citizen! 二流市民 Repeal Prop 8! Proposition 8 is bigotry and creates second class citizens of Californian's! Separate Church and State! Religious laws belong to the church, not the whole society! Stop 8!

California win emboldens anti-gay religious groups

Coming to a State near you! Watch out everyone! Don’t believe their lies because a whole lot of Californian’s fell for it.

I keep hearing comments that Prop 8 was not pushed by religious groups, they keep saying what about these people or those over there. Prop 8 people even agree that it is the Mormon’s, Catholics, and Evangelical Christians. All use the same bible that allegedly justifies targeting gay people for persecution. Though Mormons also use “The Book of Mormon”, and a “prophet” who had found some inscription that only he was able to see miraculously wrote it. Why these religious faiths are grouping together to destroy America’s constitution is bewildering since many Evangelical Christian’s see The Book of Mormon as sacrilegious to the bible teachings. My own former faith taught us to beware of false prophets.

Why are they grouping together? I can only image that it’s for the purpose of voting in order to water down America’s constitution in their religious favor, though it’s still unconstitutional for an overbearing tyrannical majority to oppress a minority. Hopefully, our judicial system will continue to protect our constitutions, if not then this country is lost.

Don’t these people have anything better to do besides attacking other people?

They should focus on their own families, and clean their own houses. Don’t mess with our constitutions.

Proposition 8 is illegal, and unconstitutional! The prop 8 people fooled people into voting for it, and they are trying to be sneaky by pushing this thing through. They are supposed to take it through legislation and then the voting process, but they skipped the legislation part because they already knew that it would not pass legislation. California’s legislation had already fixed the law to clarify civil marriage, but it was vetoed twice by the governor because they though it was up to the courts to correct the discrimination. Though marriage went to the Supreme Court as a result of Mayor Newsom marrying 4000 people in San Francisco, that brought about the court case, and the California Supreme Court found that denying civil marriage to same-sex couples is unconstitutional. The religious fanatics just won’t stop making a mess of everything, they can’t stand it when they loose, so they keep wasting taxpayer dollars on the mess they have created.

They don’t understand that their religious laws are not our civil laws, and those they are separate, but they continue to push their religious dogma on the rest of us, and they don’t care what religion you belong to. They will do their best to exert Christian dogma on us all. Then come the inquisitions because they just will not stop.

California win emboldens anti-gay religious groups
Leaders of the successful Proposition 8 campaign say an unusual coalition of evangelical Christians, Mormons and Roman Catholics built a majority at the polls Nov. 4 by harnessing the organizational muscle of churches to a mainstream message about what school children might be taught about same-sex relationships if the ban failed.
Same-sex marriage bans also won in Arizona and Florida. But in putting together the California victory, the coalition overcame opposition from the state’s political establishment and assumptions about how voters in the famously tolerant state would respond to taking away the rights the state’s highest court granted this spring.
“Everyone told me it could not be done, people do not care about this enough, you will be overwhelmed and you will lose,” said Maggie Gallagher, executive director of the National Organization for Marriage, a New Jersey group that provided seed money early this year to qualify the measure for the ballot.

Marriage Equality. Separate Church and State law. Civil law belongs to the people, and every one should be treated with respect and dignity. Repeal Prop 8!

モルモン教徒 の ファトゥアー
標的 合衆国 憲法

偏見はキリスト教の価値ではない。

Name Calling From “Family Research Council” Tony Perkins

Now the Family Research Council is claiming advocacy of anarchy!

This is just another one of those religious groups set up to target Gay people by creating an organizational name for tax free status. Beware, all they do is attack Gay people and allege that Gay people have an agenda!!! Don’t be fooled!

BTW, that agenda is EQUALITY!

How does he think this country was found?  I’m not suggesting anarchy, but if that is the label they are using today, I can’t wait to hear the next label.  It’s strange that a people who claim to be so devoutly religious and family oriented would resort to such an attack on our Governor and Our community!  It’s outrageous!

All those people should stay out of California, and stop funneling illegal funds into California for the sake of passing an illegal vote against Californian’s in the name of their religion.

What about the continued lies they use to attack Californian’s, and Our families!  They seem to pretend that their families are better than other families!  How could this be when their divorce rate is higher than 60%, and when they divorce they use the children to go against another parent!

We still live in a country that has religious freedom and for them to take away the civil rights of those individuals is unconstitutional and illegal.  You cannot vote away a groups right to be free and treated equally the same under civil laws, either California’s or the United States!

Your church and your religion is your business and that should not be forced upon us!  This is why people are protesting, and we have a right to support the cause of equality, and stop these religions from pushing they’re hated upon the rest of our society.

They need to keep their religion to themselves and stop this nonsense of pretending they don’t see it as bigotry!

I’ve heard the games from them for far to long.  Some people still hang on to the bigotry brought upon the Japanese American to this day, and allege that taking everything away was not discrimination, even though the government had already agreed that it was wrong.

So you cannot tell me that Prop 8 is not Hate!  Prop 8 is about discrimination base on religious dogma as conferred by the Mormon Church in Utah. Some sent out letters in other states pushing propositions by Church leaders, and it’s plausible they did the same in California. Most if not all of those propositions single out, and target our Gay brother’s, sisters and families.

They are the ones trying to water down our constitution for their religious needs.

TAKE ACTION! FIGHT BIGOTRY!

“Since Election Day, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) has made statements supporting demonstrations against Proposition 8, and urging California ’s Supreme Court to block the amendment’s enforcement…Condoning street protests and supporting judicial activist scams to overturn a popularly approved state constitutional amendment approaches advocacy of anarchy. Gov. Schwarzenegger is playing a dangerous game, and it needs to stop. Now.”

モルモン教徒 標的 合衆国 憲法

At Mormon Temple, a Protest Over Prop 8

Thank you! To Our Friends in New York!

The Mormon Church seems perplexed on these demonstrations, and said the majority of Californian’s voted for Prop 8. Does this church even know anything about religious liberty, separation of church and state laws?

How can they be so perplexed about the protesters who are demanding their freedoms and rights back?

California’s constitution and laws, as I understand it, call for separation of church and state, not to mention the federal constitution.

California’s laws also state that the government should make no law respecting the establishment of religion.

Laws also protect the minority from an overbearing majority, so again the vote of Prop 8 is illegal and unconstitutional. We should never change a constitution for any religion, even with a majority vote! It does not matter about some ones religious fervor because we have religious freedom.

Aside from all that, how many people voted for Prop 8 after being told lies about what Prop 8 really does, and about same-sex marriage? It may have passed, but not by much at all. The Mormon Phone Bank didn’t even stop until October 25, 2008, and many ballots had been mailed long before they closed their Phone Banks or Telemarketing schemes.

The Mormons are giving us their religious edicts by claiming their ‘god’ ordains marriage, so they have to pass a proposition to change our civil laws? How can ‘god’ ordain marriage when the church didn’t even adopt the practice passed down by Pagan law until much later? If ‘god’ ordains it then why do they want to change our civil laws? If it’s ordained by ‘god’ then does that insinuate that the Mormon Church is ‘god’? What prophet gave them that information? The bible tells me to beware of false prophets!

It’s scary to see people follow church leaders like these people have, in order to harm another group of people, it rings of Jim Jones! The endorsement by the Mormon Church on prop 8 has brought harm on the minority group of Gay people, and their families, in the name of religion!

I don’t even believe that the word marriage is in any older translations of the bible, so it must be written in The Book of Mormon, and not even in the bible. We should not be translating and rewriting our constitutions for religious purposes, and that is what this is about. It’s about Separation of Church and State laws! A majority vote does not matter because it is a violation of laws, and the Mormon’s should not be exerting their religious edicts on the rest of us!

It doesn’t matter what a religion believes, no one is disputing that, but you cannot force your religious views or edicts on the rest of us, even by vote, regardless of a majority. That is NOT a democracy IT IS a theocracy!

Some wonder why the focus is on the Mormon Church, well the Pope did not send out edicts to churches, if he had then that is also illegal, and should be investigated. American’s have a right to religious freedom and separation of church and state. Some churches do offer same-sex marriages, so what are they to do now? Some churches and other faiths do not condemn Gay people or same-sex marriages, like the Mormons, so what about them?

Where is the religious freedom?

Mormons leaders sent letters to their upper echelons, they backed their followers in donating money, time and telemarketing in order to get the constitution changed in their religious favor, which would take away the rights of a targeted minority group who may or may not even be Mormon.

Shame! Shame on the Mormon Church! Keep your edicts to yourself!

At Mormon Temple, a Protest Over Prop 8
Thousands of people gathered on Wednesday evening in front of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints on the Upper West Side to protest the Mormon church’s support for Proposition 8, which outlawed same-sex marriage in California last week.

Those at the front of the march held a banner proclaiming “God Loves Gay Marriage.” There were chants demanding equality and signs with slogans like “Would Jesus spend tax-free dollars to support hate and injustice?”

Some in the crowd said they simply wanted to take a public stance in support of friends or relatives. Others said they were also motivated by anger over the idea that a religious institution would use the ballot process in what they saw as an attempt to impose religious values in a democracy based on separation of church and state.

Riding on a Segway at the front of the march was Christopher Harrison, 47, from Hell’s Kitchen, who said he was a fifth-generation Mormon but disagreed with the church on the matter of same-sex marriage.

“It is time to promote love,” he said. “If they want to call themselves Christians, they have to do as Christians are supposed to do.”

Mormon Fatwa Targets US Constitutions! We should ALL defend Separation of Church and State laws! Numerous other religions will be affected if people start allowing changes to OUR Constitutions and Laws for a particular faith! It is NO longer just about Same Sex Marriages!

モルモン教徒 の ファトゥアー
標的 合衆国 憲法

偏見はキリスト教の価値ではない。

Mormon church pulls plug on pro-Prop. 8 calls from Utah

This is for all those that alleged people are crying about some “alleged” Mormon conspiracy. Hmm! Good choice of word! I never thought of that word, good one! I just looked it up in the dictionary, and it seems to fit what is going on, so it does not appear to be an “alleged” conspiracy! …..it is!

Kim Farah, a spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints makes her comments, see link below.

The church feels that “marriage” is ordained by “god”

They don’t say anything about how other people get married when they are not using “god” as the footstool.

Atheists get married and do not use the word “god” in their marriage! Other people and other religions get married under civil laws, and do not use “god!”

Since they are not of the Mormon faith or of those supporting prop hate, does that make all their marriages invalid as well, since they do not use the term “god?” Heck, I can sign a civil marriage contract, and I will never use the term “god”, this is because OUR Civil Laws and Religious Laws are SEPARATE.

Our Civil Marriages do NOT belong to the Church; church marriages are not the same as getting a civil marriage license. If a person wishes to get married they have to get a civil marriage license, and get it signed. Your church leaders, a Justice of the Peace or any other faith or belief system can sign it. It’s not just the Mormons or Catholics! What you do with in YOUR Church regarding marriage is YOUR business! However, they chose to force their belief system on the rest of us!

We have soldiers fighting a war against alleged religious fanatics, and we do not need any of their edicts forced on the rest of us!

Mormon church pulls plug on pro-Prop. 8 calls from Utah
The Mormon church, whose members have emerged as the leading backers of a ballot measure to end same-sex marriage in California, is scaling back its Utah campaign operation but will continue to support the initiative.

Church members will no longer be making phone calls from Utah to California voters, Kim Farah, a spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said in a prepared statement Friday.

At the request of the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign, church members in Utah had been enlisted to make calls on behalf of the measure.

“However, the church has since determined that such phone calls are best handled by those who are registered California voters,” Farah said.

Opponents of the measure have criticized the church’s involvement in the campaign.

The Courage Campaign, a liberal advocacy group, plans to deliver a petition to a Mormon church in Los Angeles next week demanding the church stop funding the Yes on 8 campaign.

But a spokesman for the church, which holds traditional marriage is a sacred institution ordained by God, said the church continues to support the measure despite curtailing its Utah phone bank operation.

Church members have been the biggest contributors to the Yes on 8 campaign.

In a related matter, Frank Schubert, who is managing the Yes on 8 campaign, released a statement warning that “unless we raise $3 million in the next week, we’re going to lose.”

The No on 8 campaign, which raised $3.9 million this week at a fundraiser at the Beverly Hills home of billionaire Ron Burkle, has made similar appeals in the past.

Supporters have raised $27.7 million and opponents $29.3 million, according to an Associated Press analysis of campaign filings.

Mormon Fatwa Targets US Constitutions! We should ALL defend Separation of Church and State laws! Numerous other religions will be affected if people start allowing changes to OUR Constitutions and Laws for a particular faith! It is NO longer just about Same-Sex Marriages!

モルモン教徒 の ファトゥアー
標的 合衆国 憲法