End the Lies and Pass the Matthew Shepard Act

I’ve already blogged on the terrorism brought about by these right wing extremists, several times. When they preach the hate toward Gay people or immigrants, their followers listen. The problem is that there bible authorizes them to kill and terrorize people they see fit to terrorize. They’re so extreme that when their minister tells them something behind the pulpit essentially “demonizing” others, that’s automatic authorization for their followers to kill, attack or terrorize Gay people. Rush Limbaugh is a prime example of that constant preaching. I’ve also noticed that most extremist religious views target Gay people, and that seems to be all they do within their organization. I had seen one web site, condemning homosexuality, yet it said nothing about the starvation, homeless children, destruction of our environment or homeless veterans.

I’ve seen this hate preached all to often, and that is why they’re able to get Bush to veto a hate crimes bill because they are the haters committing these crimes.

These same people also taunt Gay people or other people not of their ethnic background. I’m a sixth generation Californian, and I know California has been a Spanish speaking state longer than it’s been part of the Union, yet we have those same kinds of extremists coming out of central California targeting Hispanic people. Many of them take jobs that they will not do themselves. It’s the constant harassment of other groups which helps them gain more converts of the younger generation who feel lost and have a need to join a group.

It’s time to stop this madness in American society.

End the Lies and Pass the Matthew Shepard Act

Two years ago, radical right-wing groups and George W. Bush’s veto threat blocked federal hate crimes protections for LGBT people. Today, we have another chance.

But because we came so close in 2007, our opponents are fighting more ferociously and lying more shamelessly than ever. Your donation will support an ambitious campaign of nonstop advocacy in Congress, grassroots mobilization in key districts, media work, hard-hitting research, and extensive public education.

Anti-LGBT hate crimes were up 6% in the most recent FBI data. They’re happening all around us.

In early December, Jose Sucuzhañay, a real estate broker and father of two, was attacked by a gang of men in Brooklyn. They beat him to death with a baseball bat while yelling anti-Hispanic and anti-gay slurs. He had been walking arm-in-arm with his brother, huddling against the cold.

Just days later, near San Francisco, four men attacked a woman with a rainbow sticker on her car, taunted her for being a lesbian, drove her to an abandoned building and brutally raped her, leaving her naked on the street.

We must give local law enforcement the tools they need to investigate and prosecute these heinous crimes. Help us raise $120,000 to fight for the Matthew Shepard Act.

These horrific crimes happened in states with inclusive LGBT hate crime laws, but many states have none – and even in those that do have sexual orientation and gender identity hate crimes laws, federal investigators can’t intervene without a national law. Until then, we and our loved ones must walk the streets in fear, without the legal protections we deserve.

Extremist Threats H8 Women’s Fitted Baseball Tee

Land of the Free H8 Extremists Threaten Free America! Extremism seems to be the perpetrator of Prop 8. Biblical extremists intimidate and threaten free people. Stop tyranny and the tyrant mobs!

福音主義者原理主義者のみならずあらゆる宗教的過激派から自らを守る

Lie after Lie! Religious Extremists Continue Spreading Lies about the LGBT Community!

“We are coming out to fight the lies, the myths, the distortions. We are coming out to tell the truths about gays, for I am tired of the conspiracy of silence, so I’m going to talk about it. And I want you to talk about it.”
– Harvey Milk’s “Hope Speech,” 1978

Tired of these religious fanatics demonizing and telling lies about the community! Rick Warren can keep his religious views, but his religious views shouldn’t be forced upon the rest of us. He wouldn’t like it if I forced my religious views on him or his family, would he? I’m sure he wouldn’t.

Rick Warren doesn’t speak for other faiths, so don’t believe him.  As for his comments on Buddhism, Prop 8 is against Buddhist practice because Prop 8 creates a second class citizen and discriminates against other people for who they are.  Rick Warren and his followers don’t have to like it, but they should NOT be allowed to push their religious views on the rest of us. Forcing by a vote is not “religious liberty” because it favors his faith over my own and many others. That is why we have a common law and common understanding of The Separation of Church and State, and California’s constitution say’s that “The Legislature shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.“ [You may have to research this link under declaration of rights.] Though, this should all be common sense in 21st century America, we’re not living in the dark ages when fanatics killed in order to convert or are we?

I know religion, and I know that they get their followers to do their bidding through religious fervor, and religious fervor is a scary thing when the people blindly follow without even educating themselves on issues. This is how they get their 10% tithing and donations, as well as push other issues.

We should keep and honor Separation of Church and State! If we don’t have that then we do not have “religious liberty” because without on the other does not exist.

What we have here is extremist religious doctrine being force on the greater society, and that doctrine favors one belief system over many others, and it violates my own religious liberty.

Stop the Lies!

Harvey Milk knew that only by suppressing the truth can the forces of fear and divisiveness win.

To build support for Proposition 8, the radical right said California teachers would be forced to teach about homosexuality in the classroom. That was a LIE.

They said marriage equality would expose priests and ministers to arrest if they delivered anti-gay sermons or refused to marry same-sex couples. LIE after LIE.

But the truth sets us free. The truth destroys hate. The truth changes minds – when we all work to spread it.

Once the facts are on the table – once it’s clear that all LGBT Americans want is equality, justice and dignity – people support those rights in droves. In California, though we lost, support for marriage equality was up 26% since 2000. One poll showed that 8% of Prop. 8 supporters have already changed their minds in the weeks since Election Day.

The truth will fuel the momentum toward marriage equality, hate crimes legislation, inclusive workplace protections, and the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”.

But the truth only comes out when large groups of active citizens insist on it. Like last week, when HRC hand-delivered 27,000 letters to the LDS Church asking Mormon leaders to support protections for LGBT people in Utah. That’s the kind of rapid response that holds anti-LGBT groups accountable. They’re out there recruiting and organizing like mad – we need to match them citizen-for-citizen.

Warning! Religious extremists target Gay community. Recent events caused an increasing of hate violence/terrorism toward the Gay community after religious extremists pushed prop 8.

福音主義者原理主義者のみならずあらゆる宗教的過激派から自らを守る

California win emboldens anti-gay religious groups

Coming to a State near you! Watch out everyone! Don’t believe their lies because a whole lot of Californian’s fell for it.

I keep hearing comments that Prop 8 was not pushed by religious groups, they keep saying what about these people or those over there. Prop 8 people even agree that it is the Mormon’s, Catholics, and Evangelical Christians. All use the same bible that allegedly justifies targeting gay people for persecution. Though Mormons also use “The Book of Mormon”, and a “prophet” who had found some inscription that only he was able to see miraculously wrote it. Why these religious faiths are grouping together to destroy America’s constitution is bewildering since many Evangelical Christian’s see The Book of Mormon as sacrilegious to the bible teachings. My own former faith taught us to beware of false prophets.

Why are they grouping together? I can only image that it’s for the purpose of voting in order to water down America’s constitution in their religious favor, though it’s still unconstitutional for an overbearing tyrannical majority to oppress a minority. Hopefully, our judicial system will continue to protect our constitutions, if not then this country is lost.

Don’t these people have anything better to do besides attacking other people?

They should focus on their own families, and clean their own houses. Don’t mess with our constitutions.

Proposition 8 is illegal, and unconstitutional! The prop 8 people fooled people into voting for it, and they are trying to be sneaky by pushing this thing through. They are supposed to take it through legislation and then the voting process, but they skipped the legislation part because they already knew that it would not pass legislation. California’s legislation had already fixed the law to clarify civil marriage, but it was vetoed twice by the governor because they though it was up to the courts to correct the discrimination. Though marriage went to the Supreme Court as a result of Mayor Newsom marrying 4000 people in San Francisco, that brought about the court case, and the California Supreme Court found that denying civil marriage to same-sex couples is unconstitutional. The religious fanatics just won’t stop making a mess of everything, they can’t stand it when they loose, so they keep wasting taxpayer dollars on the mess they have created.

They don’t understand that their religious laws are not our civil laws, and those they are separate, but they continue to push their religious dogma on the rest of us, and they don’t care what religion you belong to. They will do their best to exert Christian dogma on us all. Then come the inquisitions because they just will not stop.

California win emboldens anti-gay religious groups
Leaders of the successful Proposition 8 campaign say an unusual coalition of evangelical Christians, Mormons and Roman Catholics built a majority at the polls Nov. 4 by harnessing the organizational muscle of churches to a mainstream message about what school children might be taught about same-sex relationships if the ban failed.
Same-sex marriage bans also won in Arizona and Florida. But in putting together the California victory, the coalition overcame opposition from the state’s political establishment and assumptions about how voters in the famously tolerant state would respond to taking away the rights the state’s highest court granted this spring.
“Everyone told me it could not be done, people do not care about this enough, you will be overwhelmed and you will lose,” said Maggie Gallagher, executive director of the National Organization for Marriage, a New Jersey group that provided seed money early this year to qualify the measure for the ballot.

Marriage Equality. Separate Church and State law. Civil law belongs to the people, and every one should be treated with respect and dignity. Repeal Prop 8!

モルモン教徒 の ファトゥアー
標的 合衆国 憲法

偏見はキリスト教の価値ではない。

Name Calling From “Family Research Council” Tony Perkins

Now the Family Research Council is claiming advocacy of anarchy!

This is just another one of those religious groups set up to target Gay people by creating an organizational name for tax free status. Beware, all they do is attack Gay people and allege that Gay people have an agenda!!! Don’t be fooled!

BTW, that agenda is EQUALITY!

How does he think this country was found?  I’m not suggesting anarchy, but if that is the label they are using today, I can’t wait to hear the next label.  It’s strange that a people who claim to be so devoutly religious and family oriented would resort to such an attack on our Governor and Our community!  It’s outrageous!

All those people should stay out of California, and stop funneling illegal funds into California for the sake of passing an illegal vote against Californian’s in the name of their religion.

What about the continued lies they use to attack Californian’s, and Our families!  They seem to pretend that their families are better than other families!  How could this be when their divorce rate is higher than 60%, and when they divorce they use the children to go against another parent!

We still live in a country that has religious freedom and for them to take away the civil rights of those individuals is unconstitutional and illegal.  You cannot vote away a groups right to be free and treated equally the same under civil laws, either California’s or the United States!

Your church and your religion is your business and that should not be forced upon us!  This is why people are protesting, and we have a right to support the cause of equality, and stop these religions from pushing they’re hated upon the rest of our society.

They need to keep their religion to themselves and stop this nonsense of pretending they don’t see it as bigotry!

I’ve heard the games from them for far to long.  Some people still hang on to the bigotry brought upon the Japanese American to this day, and allege that taking everything away was not discrimination, even though the government had already agreed that it was wrong.

So you cannot tell me that Prop 8 is not Hate!  Prop 8 is about discrimination base on religious dogma as conferred by the Mormon Church in Utah. Some sent out letters in other states pushing propositions by Church leaders, and it’s plausible they did the same in California. Most if not all of those propositions single out, and target our Gay brother’s, sisters and families.

They are the ones trying to water down our constitution for their religious needs.

TAKE ACTION! FIGHT BIGOTRY!

“Since Election Day, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) has made statements supporting demonstrations against Proposition 8, and urging California ’s Supreme Court to block the amendment’s enforcement…Condoning street protests and supporting judicial activist scams to overturn a popularly approved state constitutional amendment approaches advocacy of anarchy. Gov. Schwarzenegger is playing a dangerous game, and it needs to stop. Now.”

モルモン教徒 標的 合衆国 憲法

At Mormon Temple, a Protest Over Prop 8

Thank you! To Our Friends in New York!

The Mormon Church seems perplexed on these demonstrations, and said the majority of Californian’s voted for Prop 8. Does this church even know anything about religious liberty, separation of church and state laws?

How can they be so perplexed about the protesters who are demanding their freedoms and rights back?

California’s constitution and laws, as I understand it, call for separation of church and state, not to mention the federal constitution.

California’s laws also state that the government should make no law respecting the establishment of religion.

Laws also protect the minority from an overbearing majority, so again the vote of Prop 8 is illegal and unconstitutional. We should never change a constitution for any religion, even with a majority vote! It does not matter about some ones religious fervor because we have religious freedom.

Aside from all that, how many people voted for Prop 8 after being told lies about what Prop 8 really does, and about same-sex marriage? It may have passed, but not by much at all. The Mormon Phone Bank didn’t even stop until October 25, 2008, and many ballots had been mailed long before they closed their Phone Banks or Telemarketing schemes.

The Mormons are giving us their religious edicts by claiming their ‘god’ ordains marriage, so they have to pass a proposition to change our civil laws? How can ‘god’ ordain marriage when the church didn’t even adopt the practice passed down by Pagan law until much later? If ‘god’ ordains it then why do they want to change our civil laws? If it’s ordained by ‘god’ then does that insinuate that the Mormon Church is ‘god’? What prophet gave them that information? The bible tells me to beware of false prophets!

It’s scary to see people follow church leaders like these people have, in order to harm another group of people, it rings of Jim Jones! The endorsement by the Mormon Church on prop 8 has brought harm on the minority group of Gay people, and their families, in the name of religion!

I don’t even believe that the word marriage is in any older translations of the bible, so it must be written in The Book of Mormon, and not even in the bible. We should not be translating and rewriting our constitutions for religious purposes, and that is what this is about. It’s about Separation of Church and State laws! A majority vote does not matter because it is a violation of laws, and the Mormon’s should not be exerting their religious edicts on the rest of us!

It doesn’t matter what a religion believes, no one is disputing that, but you cannot force your religious views or edicts on the rest of us, even by vote, regardless of a majority. That is NOT a democracy IT IS a theocracy!

Some wonder why the focus is on the Mormon Church, well the Pope did not send out edicts to churches, if he had then that is also illegal, and should be investigated. American’s have a right to religious freedom and separation of church and state. Some churches do offer same-sex marriages, so what are they to do now? Some churches and other faiths do not condemn Gay people or same-sex marriages, like the Mormons, so what about them?

Where is the religious freedom?

Mormons leaders sent letters to their upper echelons, they backed their followers in donating money, time and telemarketing in order to get the constitution changed in their religious favor, which would take away the rights of a targeted minority group who may or may not even be Mormon.

Shame! Shame on the Mormon Church! Keep your edicts to yourself!

At Mormon Temple, a Protest Over Prop 8
Thousands of people gathered on Wednesday evening in front of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints on the Upper West Side to protest the Mormon church’s support for Proposition 8, which outlawed same-sex marriage in California last week.

Those at the front of the march held a banner proclaiming “God Loves Gay Marriage.” There were chants demanding equality and signs with slogans like “Would Jesus spend tax-free dollars to support hate and injustice?”

Some in the crowd said they simply wanted to take a public stance in support of friends or relatives. Others said they were also motivated by anger over the idea that a religious institution would use the ballot process in what they saw as an attempt to impose religious values in a democracy based on separation of church and state.

Riding on a Segway at the front of the march was Christopher Harrison, 47, from Hell’s Kitchen, who said he was a fifth-generation Mormon but disagreed with the church on the matter of same-sex marriage.

“It is time to promote love,” he said. “If they want to call themselves Christians, they have to do as Christians are supposed to do.”

Mormon Fatwa Targets US Constitutions! We should ALL defend Separation of Church and State laws! Numerous other religions will be affected if people start allowing changes to OUR Constitutions and Laws for a particular faith! It is NO longer just about Same Sex Marriages!

モルモン教徒 の ファトゥアー
標的 合衆国 憲法

偏見はキリスト教の価値ではない。

Mormon church pulls plug on pro-Prop. 8 calls from Utah

This is for all those that alleged people are crying about some “alleged” Mormon conspiracy. Hmm! Good choice of word! I never thought of that word, good one! I just looked it up in the dictionary, and it seems to fit what is going on, so it does not appear to be an “alleged” conspiracy! …..it is!

Kim Farah, a spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints makes her comments, see link below.

The church feels that “marriage” is ordained by “god”

They don’t say anything about how other people get married when they are not using “god” as the footstool.

Atheists get married and do not use the word “god” in their marriage! Other people and other religions get married under civil laws, and do not use “god!”

Since they are not of the Mormon faith or of those supporting prop hate, does that make all their marriages invalid as well, since they do not use the term “god?” Heck, I can sign a civil marriage contract, and I will never use the term “god”, this is because OUR Civil Laws and Religious Laws are SEPARATE.

Our Civil Marriages do NOT belong to the Church; church marriages are not the same as getting a civil marriage license. If a person wishes to get married they have to get a civil marriage license, and get it signed. Your church leaders, a Justice of the Peace or any other faith or belief system can sign it. It’s not just the Mormons or Catholics! What you do with in YOUR Church regarding marriage is YOUR business! However, they chose to force their belief system on the rest of us!

We have soldiers fighting a war against alleged religious fanatics, and we do not need any of their edicts forced on the rest of us!

Mormon church pulls plug on pro-Prop. 8 calls from Utah
The Mormon church, whose members have emerged as the leading backers of a ballot measure to end same-sex marriage in California, is scaling back its Utah campaign operation but will continue to support the initiative.

Church members will no longer be making phone calls from Utah to California voters, Kim Farah, a spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said in a prepared statement Friday.

At the request of the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign, church members in Utah had been enlisted to make calls on behalf of the measure.

“However, the church has since determined that such phone calls are best handled by those who are registered California voters,” Farah said.

Opponents of the measure have criticized the church’s involvement in the campaign.

The Courage Campaign, a liberal advocacy group, plans to deliver a petition to a Mormon church in Los Angeles next week demanding the church stop funding the Yes on 8 campaign.

But a spokesman for the church, which holds traditional marriage is a sacred institution ordained by God, said the church continues to support the measure despite curtailing its Utah phone bank operation.

Church members have been the biggest contributors to the Yes on 8 campaign.

In a related matter, Frank Schubert, who is managing the Yes on 8 campaign, released a statement warning that “unless we raise $3 million in the next week, we’re going to lose.”

The No on 8 campaign, which raised $3.9 million this week at a fundraiser at the Beverly Hills home of billionaire Ron Burkle, has made similar appeals in the past.

Supporters have raised $27.7 million and opponents $29.3 million, according to an Associated Press analysis of campaign filings.

Mormon Fatwa Targets US Constitutions! We should ALL defend Separation of Church and State laws! Numerous other religions will be affected if people start allowing changes to OUR Constitutions and Laws for a particular faith! It is NO longer just about Same-Sex Marriages!

モルモン教徒 の ファトゥアー
標的 合衆国 憲法

8,0000 to 10,000 March Against Prop 8

This isn’t going away, any time soon!

First, the Mormons have no right dictating our civil laws!
Second, the Mormons lied about Prop 8, just to get signatures to put it on a ballot, [BTW it's unconstitutional in the first place, but they don't care] and when it was coming to a vote, they blasted lies about the proposition. The court even had to come in and clarify things appropriately because they tried to put lies on the ballots. They didn’t like that.
Third, it’s not constitutional to target gay people in a vote, that would be like targeting Japanese American’s in a vote!
Fourth, a passing vote, doesn’t really mean anything because it’s an overbearing majority [religion] oppressing and discriminating against a minority of people.

Aside from all this the Mormons do not own our civil laws, nor does any other religious group. Our civil laws belong to the people!

Religious laws belong to YOUR religion, and that is personal to the people who practice the religion, and Mormons have no right to dictate to any other religion or group.

We’ve had enough Fatwa’s for the past 8 years, please, that is enough. We don’t need any more coming from the Mormons in America!

Any one ever hear of Separation of Church and State? Are you so arrogant or just plain ignorant of this fact?

Don’t give me that same old story, the signers of the constitution were “Christian” because many of them were NOT! Some were Deists, and Freethinkers, but I did not see it written ON the Constitution… Many of them had been persecuted by religion! Either way, they never signed the constitution to dictate Christianity, they signed it as American’s who just happened to practice a particular faith.

When you sign a contract, are you signing it as a Christian, or are you signing it because you have a contract to sign? These same people were adamant about entering the Separation of Church and State! Hmm! That should tell you a lot!

Don’t give the other sorry story that it’s 4000 year old tradition, if it’s that old of a tradition then why are you interfering with our civil laws, keep it to yourselves! Your religion belongs to your religion, not ours!

Our laws are inherited Pagan traditions, and the church adopted them from that!

8,0000 to 10,000 March Against Prop 8
Lesbians, gays and others who support same-sex
marriages marched from Hillcrest to North Park Saturday to protest the passage of the ballot measure defines marriage as the union of a man and woman.

A protest resulted in the arrest of two people Thursday after a crowd of about 2,000 rallied outside the Mormon temple in West Los Angeles. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints supported Proposition 8, which voters approved Tuesday. 52.4 to 47.6.

Separation of Church and State Stop Mormon Fatwa! We should ALL defend Separation of Church and State laws! Numerous other religions will be affected if people start allowing changes to OUR Constitutions and Laws for a particular faith! It is NO longer just about Same-Sex Marriages!

Prop. 8 protesters target Mormon temple in Westwood

The Mormons need to go home! I’m tired of them sending people out to California, so they can register to vote and then use their religious laws to circumvent California’s democracy in favor of their Mormon beliefs!

California should never change our constitution for religion or any other group pushing hate on Californian’s!

These Mormons allege that CIVIL MARRIAGE is their invention, well they need to look at history, not their religious laws. Here in the US we practice the separation of church and state laws, and we practice that in California as well. Our civil laws DO NOT belong to the Mormon church, our civil laws belong to the people of California and America. These Mormons can not circumvent every ones rights in the name of Mormonism, it is unconstitutional, and the lies they told to manipulate votes is fraud! Lies seem to be the common norm of the church to gain converts and donations.

If Civil Marriage belongs to the church then why are we tax payers subsidizing it through tax breaks? I’m not a Mormon, nor are my fellow neighbors, so my taxes should not be use to subsidies Mormon marriages.

My point is that Civil Laws and Religious Laws are not the same, they are separate, people! I’m tired of these Mormons trying to change Our laws to fit their own religious laws, this should never happen.

Californian’s have been lied to, to get the votes! Shame on the Mormon Church! SHAME!

It does not even matter how many votes they got, this vote was illegal, and against our constitution, and those Mormons should keep off our civil laws and our constitution! Our constitution protects the minority from an OVERBEARING majority! This is one of those times because they are targeting a group of people!

Civil law is inherited old Pagan law, and the church did not adopt the practice until around the 8th century. Civil marriage is an old Pagan practice for proving property rights and heirs; it has nothing to do with some ones CHOICE of a religious marriage!

Lay off our backs! You do not own our Civil Laws!

Prop. 8 protesters target Mormon temple in Westwood
More than a thousand gay-rights activists gathered Thursday afternoon outside the Mormon temple in Westwood to protest the role Mormons played in passing Proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage in California.

It was the latest in an escalating campaign directed against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for its role in marshaling millions of dollars in contributions from its members for the successful campaign to take away same-sex marriage rights.

Hey!?! How does my civil marriage undermine your screwed up religious marriage? Civil marriage belongs to the people, religious marriage belongs to the church. People have a CHOICE to go to a church. Civil marriage is an Old Pagan practice

Legal Suit Filed Against Prop 8; It’s Unconstitutional!!!

I’ve been saying all along that Prop 8 is unconstitutional, and it doesn’t matter what the majority vote say’s.

Prop 8 discriminates against people in favor of the Mormon Church and other Christian’s that backed Prop 8!

The claim that it’s a religious liberty issue is false because it actually violates my own religious liberty as a Buddhist!

The claim that ‘marriage’ belongs to the Christian’s is false as well. The church never adopted the practice of marriage until around the 8th century, and our civil laws are inherited Pagan laws passed to us from the Pagan people. The practice of marriage was for the purpose of proving property rights and heirs.

Marriage is NOT a Christian invention!

California’s constitution protect the minority from an over bearing majority, and our laws also call for the separation church laws and state laws, get that through your head.

We do NOT live in a theocracy!

Legal Suit Filed Against Prop 8; It’s Unconstitutional! [Read More]
“If the voters approved an initiative that took the right to free speech away from women, but not from men, everyone would agree that such a measure conflicts with the basic ideals of equality enshrined in our constitution. Proposition 8 suffers from the same flaw – it removes a protected constitutional right – here, the right to marry – not from all Californians, but just from one group of us,” said Jenny Pizer, a staff attorney with Lambda Legal. “That’s too big a change in the principles of our constitution to be made just by a bare majority of voters.”

“A major purpose of the constitution is to protect minorities from majorities. Because changing that principle is a fundamental change to the organizing principles of the constitution itself, only the legislature can initiate such revisions to the constitution,” added Elizabeth Gill, a staff attorney with the ACLU of Northern California.

The lawsuit was filed today in the California Supreme Court on behalf of Equality California and 6 same-sex couples who did not marry before Tuesday’s election but would like to be able to marry now.

The groups filed a writ petition in the California Supreme Court before the elections presenting similar arguments because they believed the initiative should not have appeared on the ballot, but the court dismissed that petition without addressing its merits. That earlier order is not precedent here.

“Historically, courts are reluctant to get involved in disputes if they can avoid doing so,” said Shannon Minter, Legal Director of NCLR. “It is not uncommon for the court to wait to see what happens at the polls before considering these legal arguments. However, now that Prop 8 may pass, the courts will have to weigh in and we believe they will agree that Prop 8 should never have been on the ballot in the first place.”

Hey!?! How does my civil marriage undermine your screwed up religious marriage? Civil marriage belongs to the people, religious marriage belongs to the church. People have a CHOICE to go to a church. Civil marriage is an Old Pagan practice

Ann Landers and Proposition 8

Smart girl, that Ann Landers! I like the part where she say’s to critiques that allege Gay people can change, and tells others they should give a go at being Gay! This is true, if they really think Gay people can change then surely a hetro can be Gay! Doesn’t work that way, Gay’s are born innately special.

Ann Landers and Proposition 8
It was she, the trusted friend welcomed daily into tens of millions of middle-class homes, who from early on fought for gay rights. She said homosexuality was not an illness or an aberration or that looniest of definitions, “an alternative lifestyle choice.” Rather, she was convinced homosexuality was determined by genetics and dead certain that people were hard-wired in their sexuality. And to those straight people who believed that homosexuals could be “brought around,” she always suggested that they give it a go being gay. She put her not inconsiderable clout behind the (ultimately successful) effort to get homosexuality removed from the official diagnostic manual as an “illness.”